. But it was at this point that I started to reach out to Harvest and really seeking their comment on some of the things that I had heard. That way youll never miss an episode. Not long ago, I noticed that James MacDonald is still latched onto evangelical watchdog blogger Julie Roys as his number-one. And it was it was a battle in the natural, exposing James McDonald, the letters, the articles, everything. (God) says, the prudent see danger and take refuge. And I remember being in the meeting thinking, I cant believe were arguing about this. But he demanded that he be flown home on a private jet. Hes a deceiver. And there was a group and we had two prayer meetings of people who had been former elders, staff people who have gone on the record with me. I have them up at my website if you want to see those. And from the video that he recorded with James, it sounds like the spin is that James was actually guilty. Thats thats a much harder relaunch. She sends it to me and I wrote it. Also, make sure you subscribe to The Roys Report on Apple podcasts or Google podcasts. Those are simply other examples of posts about controversial issues. Had it not been for that recording, I mean, what do you think? This story saddens me. And his email says, it seems we are being targeted. For more information just go to Judsonu.edu/visit. It is not an ecclesiastical remedy at least not any longer. Honestly dont to this day. And I checked my voicemail. Jacob Ross, all the credit card that James used for personal expenses. Because again, that was one letter that never got published and the contents, other than what Ron Duitsman said in his recent video because he actually referenced that letter. I remember praying before the Harvest Elgin campus as a garage, and its a former corporate space. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. I see that as just simply implicating a larger group and a conspiracy to use church money for stuff that was never intended. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. I called him. So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. Hi. . If the church wants to regulate marriage, let them say you cant get remarried in their church if you are already married in the eyes of the church. And I was muted on my phone. The Asbury Revival Is Over. And I dont know whether it was Rick Donald, who was was talking at that point about he had the letters, and didnt think that the elders should read all of them. "Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald": Julie Roys' Response February 12, 2019 Cherie Vandermillen [Julie Roys] I never thought I would hear an evangelical, mega-church pastor talk about planting child pornography on the computer of an executive at a Christian publication. Im sorry, before a so called board.removes a man of God they must first consider the fruit of his ministry. Then the board announced its executive committee would be resigning over the next few months. And I dont know what his exact words were, but it was basically dont you dare read scripture to me. TRR reached out to Visconti numerous times for comment about his partnership with MacDonald and his provocative social media posts, but Visconti did not respond. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! Understandable. And then he apologized. But he said even the way said that he said, we got out of that meeting, we looked at each other. Thats what the weight was. It just seems that the church of the USA is a joke. Is that how it went down? She gave it to me to get to the elders. And I looked at it, and I could not read the whole letter in one sitting. And he said, you know, James Macdonald had requested that I come out to a meeting and he had requested Mike Dunwoody and one other elder Mark Hopwood was a longtime elder from Elgin that we would all join them for a meeting at seven oclock on that Thursday night. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Wow! And this was a spiritual battle. Wives submit to your husbands. If not, youre probably looking at what Paul latter in the chapter describes as an immature child. What I especially find troubling is this: How come nobody has talked about the false doctrines that MacDonald has been preaching??? We had to deal with it. Like wow! God will deal with him. However, MacDonald texted me an invitation to appear with him in a public forum to answer for the many many lies Ive reportedly written about him. This was a many time thing. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. And, and the drama begins. They said no, for various reasons. And I, I look back at those meetings that I was just describing, Julie, I dont I dont say this lightly. My husband really appreciates James McDonalds preaching against my better judgement I told him about the new messagesso we have the Advent message from his Home Church network cast to the TV I had planned to leave the room so I didnt have to watch it I have to tell you he sounds sincere (without wax) I find the whole situation so heart breaking and confusing. The way James MacDonald is said to have treated others while pastor of Harvest and the way he behaves on Twitter dont seem to be in keeping with the way the New Testament says we should behave. In an email to The Roys Report (TRR), Vernick noted that in the Old Testament, Abigail, the wife of the boorish and immature, Nabal, was a strong woman, married to a weak characterand she wasnt toxic. Ron Duitsman, Chairman of the Board, who agreed to fire James, now appears to be out there, saying that after James got fired, that the elders were were spinning what happened in a false way. We turned out to have six witnesses who wrote 28 pages with innumerable charges. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. So, Julie Roys decided to do what she does best - investigative journalism - in order to find out the truth in the world of m. So what happened? On that Haiti trip. And there was just this push against a public rebuke. According to The Elephant's Debt (TED), a blog critical of MacDonald that launched in the summer of 2012, MacDonald was then taking a salary over $500,000, and living on a $1.9 million estate. Julie can and has spoken for herself, but I must speak up against loaded questions like this. uterus or clean out a womb after a stillbirth (because these treatments are labeled abortions, and even that word brings out comments like yours). He could have apologized a long time ago, but nothing publicly. I dont believe God makes mistakes when creating us a certain sex. So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. For narcissists, attracting attention is the point. Julie Roys October 8, 2020. And learn how MacDonald almost escaped being exposedand how six scathing letters that revealed MacDonalds true nature almost failed to reach the elder board. His sermons changed from adoration of the text to little postcard messages. So I appreciate it. I think of the timing, I think it was earlier that day, that I actually I sent I had sent Sandys letter out, because Sandy sent, she addressed her letter to the elder board. You did you have any idea that that this was out there, and might get aired? So so sorry for anyone who has had to face the James MacDonald storm. Thats a Tuesday night. And you got all of them. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. Following allegations of years-long bullying and financial misconduct, the lead pastor and executive team of an Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch, Everyone was laughing and goading, like it was a jokeuntil it wasnt. And I remember, Julie, I was in that meeting that Tuesday night. (Julie Roys) Eight years ago, prominent author and pastor, John MacArthur, strongly warned the Moody Bible Institute about its association with now-disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald. And I just remember my first feeling, you know, just honestly, relief. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. I agree that its loving to speak the truth, even when its unpopular, but the New Testament also has a lot to say about the way we conduct ourselves and how we should treat each other. I said, I will confess my transgression to the Lord, and you forgave the iniquity of my sin. Yes, I agree. And as people rotated through, there were newer people on the board, and they wouldnt have really had a lot of access to to James McDonald. I wrote back to her, and I apologized to her. But the one letter that isnt published came from Sandy Song. Hes talking about James McDonald, but not calling him out by name. And there was a voicemail from one of the pastors at Harvest, in a really sort of pushing for me to sign that put my name to that. So Im deeply grateful for their faithful support. MacDonald notes in the email that about a month after the settlement, he was able to write to recipients of the email. So I asked the other elders, I said, I need to repent. They should go to the reconciliation team. But like I said, Hes really working hard to rewrite history. Dan was one of the elders who fired James McDonald. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, who's a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. And if I can give you a context, where I was in my thought process, in that. But according. Voice of James MacDonald Believed to Be Featured in Vulgar Comments. And this is when everything really started happening. Okay thats what Gods word says. James Macdonald is a wolf and sadly so many have been fooled by this charlatan. From the overflow of your heart your mouth (and thumbs) are speaking. But I think my kat has watched too much Kenneth Copeland. So let me let me take you to February I believe is February 12. And then saying, I need a private jet to fly me home. I at least heard of it from somebody by that point. And if he doesnt, what does that mean in terms of employment at Harvest Bible Chapel? Who were all shameless self promoters. And we were at an absolute stalemate. And scripture is really clear that its got to be, you know, two or three witnesses. #JRgossipslut James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 15, 2021 And that was the day that Mancow Muller aired these excerpts. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. I say this as a Christian who was taken to task by Christian doctors who told me of all sorts of cases that are not as the woman loved murdering her baby as many pro-life conservatives want everyone to believe. You dont know how I got ahold of them. But like you do what that says and the people responded as you hope Christians do. And he opened the meeting, looking at me and said, I know what youre going to do, and the church is going to implode or blow up, and its going to be on you. . Then let me just ask you from the start, why are you doing this? Yet he notes that only a small number of former listeners responded positively. Others, who stumbled by the public deception sent many hateful words.. Yeah Cynthia. There is a solution for our sin in Scripture. Whats the point of arguing the point, you know, like, okay, youre gonna say you dont remember that part. If you find yourself unaware of Rather, its helping those in bondage find freedom. The elder board is still in the dark. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. He also advertised an upcoming GrampCampan overnight retreat providing training and tools for grandparents to connect with their grandkids. Like this had been a months long drawn out battle. That was a very common part of how Harvest approached things like that. What do you give, he would have been removed from Harvest, theres no doubt. And at the end of the night, we looked around the room, we had talked through it. One is, I dont want people to give up on the church. In our required Old and New Testament classes, we utilized the Oxford Annotated Bible. And you then forwarded them to the elder board. You know, while while I was an overseer, I didnt know it. And so really appreciate that and appreciate the time at which you did that. Thats even though MacDonalds former megachurch, Harvest Bible Chapel, disqualified MacDonald from public ministry in 2019 for a pattern of sinful behavior.. In October, Harvest along with lead pastor James MacDonald filed a defamation lawsuit against the author of the World article, Julie Roys, for "asserting false allegations" during her eight . The airing accelerated the timeline. I had, of course, people from Harvest who had heard it, sending me sending me clips. If hes ok with lying it places doubt on the gospel. This isnt phrased to have constructive conversation. Mine havent offered any blessings, but at least they havent eaten my extremities while I sleep. Whether he was going to resign or have an opportunity to resign or, you know, terminate his employment was to be determined at that point. On January 7, 2019, Harvest elders announced they decided to drop the lawsuit against Julie Roys and four other individuals. In that same meeting that same Thursday night, he argued, the elders shouldnt have the letters. pretty rotten.. I mean just absolutely devastating stories and, and feeling the pain. 2. Dan and his wife, Kim, subsequently left Harvest, but remain committed to the integrity of the Church and caring for those who have been hurt in the Church. I think he might have and the reason I say that is that weekend, so you know, here we are on Tuesday, Tuesday, the fifth. And I just felt this incredible weight. I said, again, please dont do it just because Im asking you. But I think it was And anyway, hes fired. Dr. John Street, the head of counseling at MacArthurs The Masters University, takes a harder line. And I thought, well, I got to read the letter. Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a "pattern of sinful behavior," James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch in Mesa, Arizona. There was a spirited discussion of the letters and who should be able to read the letters. It was positioned as an attack because the ministry was growing and those people were bitter, etc. . Why is that? You can review it. I didnt know these things were going on, but Im so sorry. I need to repent. Theres a number of narratives out there right now about how these letters came to the elder board. Lets try little role reversal here. There were elders and influential families that spoke against Moses in the desert, God destroyed them and their families. How can a husband love his wife as Christ loved the church when he is emotionally, mentally, physically, and sexually abusive? No, Julie Roys did not open the hood on James MacDonald, although she in her own hubris would like her audience to think that. Prominent evangelical scholar, author, and missiologist, Ed Stetzer, is leaving his position as executive director of Wheaton Colleges The Billy Graham Center to become dean, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of, An Arizona megachurch has hired Landon MacDonald as a lead pastor, despite allegations MacDonald bullied and abused those in his care while pastoring at Harvest, It has been said, Show me a persons checkbook and I can tell you what he cares about. Social Action, 1964 James MacDonald, the, Christian actor Kirk Cameron on Monday featured disgraced pastor James MacDonald as a guest on Camerons TBN Takeaways program on biblical illiteracy. MacDonald was fired, Mark DeMoss, a man described by Christianity Today as Evangelicalisms PR Guru and a former Liberty University trustee, is apparently spending time with two men, Its been more than two years since Harvest Bible Chapel fired James MacDonald for engaging in conduct . Well, Dan, like I said, on an earlier podcast that I had with Mancow Muller, I was hoping to be done with James McDonald and reporting on Harvest months ago. That would be my word to Ron Duitsman. And I sat and prayed. None of my sources said it was wrong. The 8 Best Julie Roys Podcasts. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Its not being nice, polite, or inoffensive. Not all he said was false because then it would have been obvious to any discerning Christian. And I know its cost you personally. James MacDonald (born October 4, 1960) is a Canadian-born evangelical Christian pastor, television evangelist, and author. But he starts arguing process. Dan currently is an executive and leadership coach and the founder of Front Seat Leadership. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. I remember one other elder leading over to me and said repentant people dont ask for money. He says, Well, for when I kept silent my bones wasted through my groaning all day long for day and night, your hand was heavy upon me. The G in freemasonry stands for generation. Why would anyone who follows Jesus Christ care what Generation Church thinks about anything? He would probably be wildly successful. And man, if you go back and listen to this morning, morning show I I just, I remember turning on the radio and hearing this, you know, Old MacDonald had a call, e-i, e-i, o This young man had put together it only Mancow can can deliver something the way that he does. 1) Julie Roys. May 19, 2021 10:53 am To some former Harvest Bible Chapel insiders, Rick Donald was not just James MacDonald's right-hand man; he was also his "hatchet man" or "smiling assassin." Load more You do that, and hope that the person will repent, and that they will turn and that therell be restoration. Patient, kind, not self-seeking. So you werent part of the lawsuit. Again, only you and Mike Dunwoody, did that publicly. Can you say what was in that letter? We are so embarrassed and disgusted by his gross actions in the last 30 years. He surrounded himself with yes men and used intimidation tactics to keep people in line. 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